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We look up to Venezuela? Wait, what?

Post  80-0 on 1/30/2010, 14:54

Thoughts on the Cuba-ization/Venezuela-ization/etc.-ization of America?


Obama and those he surrounds himself with seem to have the greatest respect for dictators like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez... is it any surprise that this country is moving closer and closer in the direction of such countries?
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Post  0001 on 1/30/2010, 19:06

Well I would disagree that we are moving closer to them, but I would agree that they do owe too much respect to dictatorships, and they kiss up to them way to much. Which is sad, we shouldn't ignore, or tolerate such regimes that are so publically brutal. Of course look at us and China.... Rolling Eyes

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Post  80-0 on 1/30/2010, 19:10

And not for nothing, there was that woman whose name I can't remember talking about the 'glorious revolution' in Cuba, saying nothing of the genocide, and one thing that really bugs me: Che.

People wear his face as an emblem of their constant hunger for independence from any sort of restraint on their lives.

Such people are pathetic.


However, if it's a shirt like this, I don't mind Wink :

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 1/31/2010, 08:51

By the way with moving toward a dictatorship have you not heard of the US Constiution which limits power and we have the right to bear arms and if we have to we overthrow our government.

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Post  Sgt Angry Egg on 1/31/2010, 16:58

I have no clue what you are talking about. Could you provide a link, so I could educate myself on this whole Obama looking up to dictators thing?
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Post  80-0 on 1/31/2010, 18:09

I'll give you a smorgasbord:







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Post  Sgt Angry Egg on 1/31/2010, 18:10

Excellent. I'll watch them in a minute.
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Post  0001 on 2/1/2010, 12:21

Wow, was 80-0 ready for that question or what? Razz

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Post  80-0 on 2/1/2010, 16:55

Nah, five minutes of youtube searches gave me what I was looking for. Wink
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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/1/2010, 22:06

Ha, yes... We have a constitution that prevents the government from becoming too powerful 'in our eyes'

see, they are slowly but surly headed towards comunism.
The point is that it is slow enough and whatever else, that most Americans aren't realizing it. That's because most people are democrats nowadays and whatever Obama says, is law.
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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/2/2010, 04:29

PoWn3d_0704 wrote:That's because most people are democrats nowadays and whatever Obama says, is law.

I would have to disagree with that. The reason Obama took office is because the conservatives didn't even bother to go vote because of McCain. To be honest, I wasn't exactly thrilled with McCain either, but he's better than Obama...
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Post  80-0 on 2/2/2010, 06:21

Yes, the Constitution limits government for a reason.

You may think from some liberal polling that most people are Democrats, but bear in mind that people like Ann Coulter and Mark Levin (iirc) didn't vote for McCain and encouraged conservatives not to, and if those town hall meetings tell you something, it's that a conservative ascendancy is taking place in America today.
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Post  0001 on 2/2/2010, 15:46

Yeah, I really don't think we're moving towards communism, because that system is even more flawed then this one. I just think this is a particularly bad year for government, but it'll change, hopefully.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/2/2010, 15:50

80-0 wrote:but bear in mind that people like Ann Coulter and Mark Levin (iirc) didn't vote for McCain and encouraged conservatives not to,

Which I also think is wrong. The conservatives not voting for the better will no doubt give us the worse(aka That One)...
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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/3/2010, 13:27

Way to murder the thread.

We're SUPPOSED to all believe that we're becoming a Communistic country.
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Post  0001 on 2/3/2010, 13:39

Oh right, I forgot. Razz

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/3/2010, 13:56

Rolling Eyes
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Post  80-0 on 2/3/2010, 15:11

Jedi Joe wrote:
80-0 wrote:but bear in mind that people like Ann Coulter and Mark Levin (iirc) didn't vote for McCain and encouraged conservatives not to,

Which I also think is wrong. The conservatives not voting for the better will no doubt give us the worse(aka That One)...

That's why Mark Levin got so pissed when Beck said "I think Mccain would be worse for this country LOLOLOLOLOLO" in his interview with the perky one. Question
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/3/2010, 17:02

You realize becoming communist is beyond the government's power and would everyone stop being paranoid.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/3/2010, 17:54

Cpt. Crinkle wrote:You realize becoming communist is beyond the government's power and would everyone stop being paranoid.

Obama's trying. Believe me.
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Post  Kombustion on 2/3/2010, 19:00

What if he's just.. Accidentally making the American government communistic..

I wonder if he'd just be like.. "MY BAD..." Hmm.. I dont know.

I honestly think that maybe he's just giving other nations respect. Sure, their governments suck, but I mean would you really wanna get in a war with any of those dictatorships right now? I think not..

I dont see whats so wrong with giving those leaders respect.. I mean.. What are we supposed to do.. Go up to them, punch them in the face, & then for the western hemisphere hospitality, kick him while he's down..?
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Post  0001 on 2/3/2010, 22:44

Giving leaders repsect is one thing, but aknowledging unjust leaders is a big deal. And about the whole communist conspiracy thing, really guys? Not only would the entire economy be AGAINST that, they'd have the power to stop it. I follow politics closely, Obama has made a lot of screw ups, but not once has he done anything 'communistic' now correct me if I'm wrong, but the usual teltale signs of a communist regime are:
-Shutdown and control of public media
-Loss of free speech
-All governmental power being consolidated in one body
-A large and sudden build up of military forces in the homeland
-Lots and lots of propoganda
-Limiting the peoples access and participation in the government
-Loss of elections, or throwing elections
-martial law being declard/clamp down on civilian rights. (And do not even MENTION gun control, they have done nothing here, it's just another rumor)

So answer me this, it may just be me, but I do not see a single one of these being instituted at present, so how then are we becoming a communist state? Also, despite what all this Republican propoganda, communism and socialism are VERY DIFFERENT.

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/4/2010, 19:35

You're all paranoid. Get less paranoid and I will talk again.

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Post  80-0 on 2/6/2010, 14:54

Cpt. Crinkle wrote:You realize becoming communist is beyond the government's power and would everyone stop being paranoid.

You're absolutely right my friend! The Constitution limits government so that Communism will never take over.


The only problem is, Obama and co. are directly contradicting the Constitution with all their government takeovers and whatnot.

@ ABL's last sentence: Dear me, but they aren't. Learn about George Bernard Shaw. Learn about Karl Marx. Learn about Saul Alinsky. Learn about their influences. Learn about communism. Learn about socialism. And you'll see principles embodied by one, right smack dab in the other. affraid
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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/6/2010, 15:43

80-0 wrote:@ ABL's last sentence: Dear me, but they aren't. Learn about George Bernard Shaw. Learn about Karl Marx. Learn about Saul Alinsky. Learn about their influences. Learn about communism. Learn about socialism. And you'll see principles embodied by one, right smack dab in the other. affraid

Exactly. Socialism is communism jr.

But don't take our word for it. We're just a bunch of racist rednecks who cling to our faith and our guns too much. Wink
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