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Post  0001 on 2/19/2010, 12:23

I want everyone to check this out who is into the climate debate. I was little iffy at first, but this show changed me. Nova is a highly respected scientific video journal, and I think you guys will find this fascintating as well. It is one hour long though, but it's worth watching.

http://watch.opb.org/video/1108763899

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/19/2010, 18:22

Dude.. they are starting to admit that every piece of data that didn't PROVE global waring was deleted and thrown away.
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/20/2010, 21:25

Well we still make our environments bad and pollute, dump trash also one more thing the island of plastic in the pacific ocean the size of Texas. And wait you're saying we don't do anything to our planet.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/21/2010, 09:07

Cpt. Crinkle wrote:Well we still make our environments bad and pollute, dump trash also one more thing the island of plastic in the pacific ocean the size of Texas. And wait you're saying we don't do anything to our planet.

Yes, Crinkle, but we are getting out of that slowly but surely. Look at the production increase in solar panels, electric cars, and wind generators.
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Post  0001 on 2/23/2010, 21:08

True, we are making a start, but there is a lot left to do...

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/24/2010, 13:36

The planet can handle herself.
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Post  0001 on 2/24/2010, 13:37

Yes, but we got to clean up the messes we make. Wink

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/24/2010, 13:40

Yeah, because cleaning air is sooooo easy.
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Post  0001 on 2/24/2010, 13:42

I wasn't neccessarily reffering to clean air, I meant in general. lol

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 2/24/2010, 13:45

and, actually.... cleaning the exhaust coming out of a car is really easy, just expensive. Top Gear did it.
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Post  Jedi Joe on 2/24/2010, 14:01

astoriabluelegos wrote:Yes, but we got to clean up the messes we make. Wink

Why don't we just wait 20 years, and have our robots do it for us while we're building hotels on the Moon?
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/24/2010, 21:21

So in other words don't litter.

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Post  0001 on 2/24/2010, 23:43

PoWn3d_0704 wrote:and, actually.... cleaning the exhaust coming out of a car is really easy, just expensive. Top Gear did it.

Yeah it really isn't that hard to do, but it is costly as you said. @Joe: YES! Wall-E anybody? Wink

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/25/2010, 19:24

Use more natural materials instead of artificial.

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Post  0001 on 2/25/2010, 22:23

Yep, that would also help a lot. Plus it'd be bio-degradable.

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 2/27/2010, 21:16

I still blame human kind. And share the wealth.

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Post  0001 on 2/28/2010, 18:38

Hahaha yep, that's understandable.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 3/1/2010, 08:47

Cpt. Crinkle wrote:I still blame human kind. And share the wealth.

Yep.

Humans = bad

Animals = good

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Post  80-0 on 3/1/2010, 11:54

I say: GLOBAL.

WARMING.

DOES.

NOT.

EXIST.

You say: Ehhhhhh yes it does...

I say: TELL THAT TO THE 3 FEET OF SNOW SITTING ON MY REAR DECK.

So yeah, we got hit with a blizzard of 3 feet of snow the other day, we lost power from 7:30 a few days ago to 4 PM the next day. Don't tell me we're heating up the planet, if God made this planet so that we could destroy it, by golly it'd be space dust by now.

But guess what: he didn't make it so that we could destroy it, he made it so we could live and thrive on it for the greater glory of HIM. NOT so we could go eco-nutso and paint everything green so we don't offend mother nature.

You say: But the polar bears are dying!

I say: So are baby seals, but we're allowed to beat them. So are dogs in dogfighting rings, and I don't see the eco-nuts at PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) coming out in opposition to those rings. So are MILLIONS OF BABIES EVERY YEAR DUE TO ABORTION. I'm talking about MILLIONS of people who could've done WONDERS for the human race and the human condition. Remember Mother Teresa? Someone asked her when God was going to send us someone who would cure AIDS, and she said God did send someone, but they got aborted. So don't tell me a few blobs of white fur and muscle tissue are going to destroy the planet, NO, the destruction of the human race through eugenics and population control will destroy the planet. It is US, WE the human race who are keeping the planet in existence through God's almighty power. HE keeps it in existence because of US. But when HE sees fit for US to no longer be here, HE will eliminate it with a snap of his almighty fingers.

HA. Take that, global whining. Ehhh ehhh global cooling. Ehhh ehhh climate change! Ehhh ehhh all this snow proves global warming. YEAH RIGHT.
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Post  0001 on 3/1/2010, 12:11

Haha interesting points. I also believe that global warming is garbage, BUT you gotta admit that things ARE changing, our weather is becoming way different then even recent years ago, and massive changes to ancient ice flows do not lie. Now I'm not saying that it's not a natural process (although I do believe humans have some effect on it, how could we not?) but things are changing nonetheless.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 3/1/2010, 12:14

80-0 just won the thread.

I believe in climate change, but I believe it's 99% natural.
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Post  0001 on 3/1/2010, 12:32

Yeah the climate goes through natural cycles, but what effect we have on those cycles has yet to be determined in my mind. I mean look at humanity, we create a lot of waste, and that waste just doesn't "go away". Wink

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Post  Jedi Joe on 3/1/2010, 13:23

It'll eventually be cleaned up though, when we switch to cleaner energy and humanity moves on.
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Post  0001 on 3/1/2010, 13:26

Indeed, If that ever happens. Razz

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 3/1/2010, 21:09

The Global warming part comes from where in the summers it's heating up more in places where it's summer and getting colder in places where it's winter.

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