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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 4/20/2010, 16:05

The second Amendment is taken too literal. People think they should have the rights to carry guns everywhere they go. People have become to paranoid when interpreting this amendment. This is one thing to worry about with our minor security force.

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Post  Sgt Angry Egg on 4/20/2010, 18:56

...I see no problem with people carrying guns to their hearts' content. As long as the requirements for getting a license are that they 1. Know how to use the gun safely and 2. No prior criminal activity and 3. no history of anger problems.
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Post  Jedi Joe on 4/20/2010, 20:46

I see nothing wrong with concealed weapons permits. Some people need them.
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Post  80-0 on 4/21/2010, 06:15

It's not that everyone MUST have a gun, it's that everyone is FREE to have a gun. The point of the second amendment is to give us the LIBERTY to choose whether or not we should carry one.

Then again liberty is the chief opponent of the statist...
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 4/21/2010, 08:27

Yes but that's self-interpretation. Who really decides what restrictions there are?

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Post  80-0 on 4/21/2010, 10:43

When people break the law, the law is enforced. Besides, now you have to have a permit for this and that and the other thing, so it makes it really hard to get a gun as it is.
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Post  0001 on 4/21/2010, 12:38

True we have the RIGHT too, but people are pushing it just to make other people mad. I mean carrying gun to Starbucks, Tea Party rallies, and protests just because you CAN. That's inflammatory and nothing more, it's pure stupidity. Just like defending swearing as "free speech". Rolling Eyes

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Post  Jedi Joe on 4/21/2010, 12:44

*facepalm*

Maybe I should just stop coming to this forum. Too much hate-mongering against the right by a so-called "open-minded" fellow... Neutral
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Post  0001 on 4/21/2010, 12:50

I've seen pics of it, it's true. Now it's not real wide spread, but it's worrisome to say the least. And it's not hate mongering, it;s pointing out how ludicrous they are behaving. They are acting so childish. Rather then being in everyones faces, why don't they get out and actually try and fix the problem! Mad People are so stupid, and most people in politics are extremally stupid. We need more even handed folks in there. Less conservative Rpublicans, and less Liberal Dems. We need to run the middle road.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 4/21/2010, 12:59

I know people who have been to Tea Parties. They aren't gun-tootin' lunatics like you are perceiving them to be. I LIVE near places where there have been Tea Parties. They have a genuine concern, and it's sad how people are exaggerating them to be savages. Neutral
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Post  0001 on 4/21/2010, 13:12

Okay given that not all of them are, but especially in more racists states, the movement is a legit cover for hatred and stupidity, it's THESE Tea Parties that worry me. Especially that idiot in Oklahoma trying to get a state Sanctioned Millitia to defend against "Governmental tyranny". I thought the Civil War already determined states can't just decide which rules they want to follow at their own convienience.

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Post  80-0 on 4/21/2010, 15:45

There's no such thing as a "racist state". There were no "racial slurs" thrown at Congressman Lewis because there is no video to prove it, same with Barney Frank. No serious Tea Partier is a homophobe or a racist. That's just an excuse to dismiss what they have to say as "crazy" or "fringe" or "un-American". It's the same "scare tactics" that you, ABL, once accused the right of using, and yet the left is as comfortable with it as Jimbo Jim Bohannon.
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Post  0001 on 4/22/2010, 00:23

Yes it is scare tactics, but you have to admit, some of these nuts have found shelter under the banner of the Tea Party in some areas. And I aould disagree that there are no racist states, if you go to the deep south, like New Orleans for example, you'll learn fast that the civil war never was truly won. Shocked

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Post  Jedi Joe on 4/22/2010, 04:44

Except there, racism is coming from the blacks against the white man.
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Post  80-0 on 4/22/2010, 15:02

astoriabluelegos wrote:Yes it is scare tactics, but you have to admit, some of these nuts have found shelter under the banner of the Tea Party in some areas. And I aould disagree that there are no racist states, if you go to the deep south, like New Orleans for example, you'll learn fast that the civil war never was truly won. Shocked

The only "ism" is when a minority wants to have it made better off than a majority. I don't hear anyone, ANYONE, and I dare anyone on here to correct me, stating regrets about the emancipation of the slaves, or stating interest in beginning slavery anew, let alone black slavery. The fact of the matter is, people from the South have stronger feelings about their side of the war than our side. Just as England doesn't celebrate July 4 with the same happiness that we do... hint hint, they LOST the war.

Similarly, the South LOST the war.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I just heard the most annoying fat slob on television (THERE I SAID IT) say the most outrageous person ever to disgrace the screens of America's televisions would be on his show.

THAT'S RIGHT, ED SCHULZ OF THE ED SHOW ON MSNBC IS GOING TO, ONCE AGAIN, HAVE ELLIOTT SPITZER, THE DISGRACED FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK, ON HIS SHOW.

What is wrong with these people? I mean, MSNBC always calls out the right for being anti-women (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann aside), and yet there they have this guy who bough a prostitute. I mean, isn't that the opposite of the feminist movement?
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Post  0001 on 4/22/2010, 23:53

Yeah so many criminals and such in politics are being idolized, it's so stupid. Right now both sides of the table need to do some serious rethinking, we are losing God in our big decision making, and that's not good. The dems never had God, and the republicans say they do, but do not act as Christians should. We need to get more good people in there before God decides to "remind" us that he is all powerful. Haiti anyone? Wink

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Post  80-0 on 4/23/2010, 09:46

Bill Clinton comes to mind... I mean, I don't mind that he helped out in Haiti, but come on, infidelity in marriage, and, indeed, the sanctity of marriage itself has been torn to pieces by society. Divorces are a dime a dozen, etc. etc.
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Post  Sgt Angry Egg on 4/24/2010, 05:16

When you say "the dems never had God" you are overgeneralizing. No one likes a bigot.
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Post  80-0 on 4/25/2010, 15:37

To be fair they had God back when abortion wasn't a serious issue, and before the nationalization of the private sector came around, i.e. before Lyndon Johnson and FDR and their ilk.
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Post  0001 on 4/26/2010, 12:38

FDR was epic, Beck is just an idiot. Without him, we would have rotted in the Great Depression and we all would be hailing the Furher right now. He had to nationalize those industries to streamline war prodection and get the country back on it's feet. Sometimes when things get bad, a strong government is required to get stuff back. And also, notice that all those industries were in nationalized after the war.

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Post  80-0 on 4/26/2010, 13:00

You're exactly wrong. FDR only lengthened the Great Depression. But that was before he actually slipped in some capitalistic ideas into his nationalizations like tax cuts on the working class.

If you read Mark Levin's book, Liberty and Tyranny, you'll understand why socialism in all its forms is tyranny. PLEASE GO READ IT, and until you do, stop calling Beck an idiot, because you alas have no concept of what he's talking about or why he is saying what he is saying. You see scaremongering, I see intelligent people worried about the future of this country. You see lies and slander, I see the truth being exposed by the few who are bold enough to do so.
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Post  Jedi Joe on 4/26/2010, 13:18

Yea, his policies extended the Depression before he destroyed it. No one seems to remember the Depression that Woodrow Wilson started in 1920, but conservative Warren Harding diminished with capitalist policies a year later... Wink
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Post  80-0 on 4/26/2010, 13:33

Woodrow Wilson... ahh, yehsh, the firhsht shohshcialisht prehshident.


And ABL, it wasn't a capitalist who sat down under terms of peace with the genocidal dictator Stalin, it was a socialist named Franklin Delano what's his face. Wink
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Post  0001 on 4/26/2010, 23:42

80-0, I'm an economics major in college, I do not need to read some book to understand the larger picture. Beck is a fool, he has no concept of what he is talking about, his use of socialist and communist is just the first of many reasons that prove he has no idea of what he is talking about. How the heck did FDR PROLONG the Great Depression? If you are referring to that video Beck did where he ridiculed FDR that was full of lies and slander. FDR through his works progress administration, public outreach, and reform got this nation back on it's feet. Which is why he is one of the best liked presidents we have ever had. I think only Washington is held in greater esteem.

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Post  80-0 on 4/27/2010, 12:49

Yes, you do need to read this book.

Hooray for Google Books.

There is no possible way that FDR's true policies (which were one and the same with Obama today) could have gotten us out of the Depression. You CANNOT spend your way out of a Depression. What you have to do is let businesses that are going out of business GO out of business, and cut taxes on ALL Americans, yes, even the rich (who if I might add pay the largest portion of taxes as of now), so that they can continue to purchase things from businesses which will then stop them from going out of business by giving them more money through the items purchased by consumers.

You get nowhere by taking the rich people's money and giving it to a poor person... the poor person will only spend it to survive, and will not use it to produce more money. What is a better idea is to relieve the burdens placed on the poor person by alleviating the taxes he must pay.

Putting a huge chunk of the private sector in the hands of the government through nationalization, or as you say "reform", is only what Obama is doing on the scale of banks, health insurance companies, the auto industry, etc. If you give a billion dollars to a failing company, will it succeed? No, it will continue to produce products people will not buy (hence it is a failing company), and the money, taxpayer dollars that is, will be wasted.
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