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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/27/2009, 00:20

No, that was a prayer... not a swear phrase...
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 11/27/2009, 11:20

Just a tad off topic the phrase above is not considered a cuss word in New Zealand.

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/27/2009, 18:38

Oh, really? Why is that?
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 11/28/2009, 09:15

Back on topic, here is the Republican plan let everyone die off who can't afford healthcare.

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Post  0001 on 11/28/2009, 18:56

A Note about damnation from God. Back during the old testament saying such a word actually MEANT it. God WOULD damn someone if you said that. And damnation means you are forever damned to Hell to burn for an eternity without any chance of going to Heaven. So when you say that, it's really very powerful, not to mention AGAINST the Morality Code. Like the word Hate, you should NEVER use damn, would YOU want to burn in Hell for eternity?

Now.....BACK ON TOPIC.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 11/29/2009, 00:19

Cpt. Crinkle wrote:Back on topic, here is the Republican plan let everyone die off who can't afford healthcare.

Laughing You sound just like Alan Grayson!

No, the Republican plan is to go after the insurance companies who are charging ridiculous amounts of money. I don't know, but I think that sounds a whole lot better than changing our values, which will only worsen the problem. It's a very conservative and ingenious plan.
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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/29/2009, 00:45

And I stand by what I said.
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Post  0001 on 11/29/2009, 11:43

Jedi Joe wrote:...I don't know, but I think that sounds a whole lot better than changing our values....

WHAT values??? The only value in corporate America is greed. The whole point of the "American Dream" is to gain profit and wealth, no matter HOW you do it. It's all backstabbing and greed. The corporations care squat about their customers and all about their profits. Bailouts, bonuses to the super wealthy, rewarding foolishness and near-sightedness, these are our so called "values". Healthcare is exactly the same way. It's all greed-driven. So to change our values as you say, would imply that we had any values in the first place to change.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 11/29/2009, 13:05

Yes, ABL, our values. I think you forgot our ORIGINAL values such as freedom and things of that nature. I agree, greediness needs to end, but the liberal's version of healthcare reform isn't going to cure it, they are only going to add fuel to the fire. They are going to take away more from American freedom, and only make the government bigger and have more control.

With our current healthcare, we are in control. With this new healthcare plan, the government will be in control, and it'll be up to them to decide whether or not you can get surgery for your cancer that could spread any day. It'll be up to them to decide if it's worth the time to keep you alive when you're on an IV. With this healthcare plan, you are putting your life in the government's hands.
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Post  0001 on 11/29/2009, 18:35

Ah, well that I would be opposed to yes. I wasn't directly reffering to this healthcare package though. It's so messed up, I'm already all against it. I was just reffering to corporate America in general.

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/29/2009, 20:53

Well I completely agree with mr. Joe
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 11/29/2009, 21:36

I agree that the plan may not cure it but we need to come together in some type of plan which is agreed on by all the politicians.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 11/29/2009, 21:51

That's not gonna happen, Crinkle. Unfortunately.
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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/29/2009, 21:52

In otherwords you would just want to kill them all? Cause if they all agreed.....
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 11/30/2009, 07:12

No, I just think they need more unification in some decisions.

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Post  0001 on 11/30/2009, 19:19

True, but realistically I don't see that happening. In fact this could lead me into a whole topic about right and wrong.... But actually it comes down to God, without him to guide, people are messed up and prone to making greedy mistakes etc... Politics explains that, the reason it's so messed up is because there is no overall guidence, the system is based on self gain, not overall gain for everybody.

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 11/30/2009, 19:46

Well.. You can't get away from the politians, so there is no use blowing it off that way. I also believe that the politians won't agree on anything, since that's the reason for the different parties.
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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 11/30/2009, 21:46

Politicians all fail democrat or republican because they just want more power.

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 12/1/2009, 00:37

Sarah Palin doesn't:....



Hahaha. I had to say that to annoy you crinkle.
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Post  0001 on 12/1/2009, 10:22

Well Crinkle is right, it is all about power, even for Sarah. tongue It comes with the job description, rarely can you find a politician more concerned about the issues, then their own personal standing.

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Post  Jedi Joe on 12/1/2009, 14:04

I don't think there isn't a human being alive who doesn't want power. It's human nature.
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Post  0001 on 12/1/2009, 21:02

Hahaha, for all it's worth, you're absolutly right Joe.

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Post  PoWn3d_0704 on 12/2/2009, 23:01

Well... she's not EVEN close to as bad as some.
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Post  0001 on 12/3/2009, 00:05

I'm with you there. There are some that REALLY bad...

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Post  Cpt. Crinkle on 12/5/2009, 10:05

Does this mean to get rid of the power struggle we can create anarchy?

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